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we had the most sometime law active fiscal policy in our history by far, the most sometime law active monetary policy in history and we have not in four years been able to get out of this recession which is still plaguing the country. in part because the stimulus program was badly structured. you've seen that argued by many. >> are you talking about tarp? >> not just tarp. the whole fiscal stimulus was badly structured. >> by whom? >> by this administration. it didn't work. >> what about the fed? >> the fed did whatever they could. we have the lowest monetary levels, the biggest monetary stimulus, the lowest interest rate in our history. >> john, nothing is working. we've also had the bush tax cuts for four years. you've had the huge stimulus package. you've had the monetary policy exploding more than it's ever been. nothing is working. the growth of the economy is slowing. >> does that exonerate obama? >> no, it doesn't. >> he knew what he was inheriting. did he know what he was inheriting? >> he's a failed president. he got a bad situation, and he failed. >> why, why, why? >> becaus
we had the most sometime law active fiscal policy in our history by far, the most sometime law active monetary policy in history and we have not in four years been able to get out of this recession which is still plaguing the country. in part because the stimulus program was badly structured. you've seen that argued by many. >> are you talking about tarp? >> not just tarp. the whole fiscal stimulus was badly structured. >> by whom? >> by this administration. it didn't...
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having the government treat every american the same, which is a foundational principal of the rule of law. and i think mitt romney has to do more of that. has he been specific with his plan? he laid five out in the debate, which is more than the president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in florida romney says he supports vouchers for medicare, a plan that is not very popular. how does play in florida with all those seniors? >> right now in florida, you've got about 12 million registered voters. 36% who are republicans, you have 40% who are democrats. and then the 24% or the remainder is going to be the most important percentage in america and i think it's 24% who are not registered republican or democrat. these are going to be the most important voters in the united states. but, let's look at medicare. you have mitt romney who says, i want to give you vouchers, which i personally don't agree with. but what would you rather have? vouchers or $761 billion cut to pa
having the government treat every american the same, which is a foundational principal of the rule of law. and i think mitt romney has to do more of that. has he been specific with his plan? he laid five out in the debate, which is more than the president did. that's why independents thought mitt romney did very, very well. >> let me ask you about one of the issues where they differ, medicare. that is a big deal in florida romney says he supports vouchers for medicare, a plan that is not...
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against sodomy laws against gay sex are you know we're we're the law in the united states for two hundred years that's a no brainer of course you know that's not unconstitutional in other words for you to get a gay. marriage if you happen to be gay and have sex with somebody and the legal way and you go to prison for the rest of your life or for a good long time and if we get romney we're going to get more schoolies is that is that really what if we get more obama is we're going to get more scully is going to you know your problem is you're going to get more alina kagan and suddenly started you know right now first off i mean how many people have been actually arrested as appear in court struck down that is wrong and so into texas but but if you began who's in jail for me no one if you well actually the probably still are people from the old left over laws but if you get more scalia's you are going to see that he proclaims that today it is not going to do as i said it was a lot of money and style misses let's go is more clarence thomas is for me and for this guy right here this libertaria
against sodomy laws against gay sex are you know we're we're the law in the united states for two hundred years that's a no brainer of course you know that's not unconstitutional in other words for you to get a gay. marriage if you happen to be gay and have sex with somebody and the legal way and you go to prison for the rest of your life or for a good long time and if we get romney we're going to get more schoolies is that is that really what if we get more obama is we're going to get more...
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. >> his name is steven law. he was the ceo of american crossroads, and a very able guy. lou: i got you. until then, if it's all right, we'll just stick with you. is that all right? >> all right. >> in ohio, around the country, we're looking at the wall street journal reporting $150 million raised last month for the obama campaign. we'll told by the romney campaign theirs is going to be impressive, but we don't have any numbers. do you have a sense that the romney campaign is keeping pace with that extraordinary fundraising result for the president's campaign? >> you know, i don't know the numbers, but my suspicion is that that's a very impressive number by president obama, and while he was, in essence, his cash on hand began to dwindle starting in may had he spent all the money on tv, this is going to get way in the weeds, but it's very important. if you're obama or romney, the money that you have in your own campaign treasury is the money most easy to spend with the biggest impact, and you're guaranteed, if you're obama or romney in getting the lowest unit rate, the low
. >> his name is steven law. he was the ceo of american crossroads, and a very able guy. lou: i got you. until then, if it's all right, we'll just stick with you. is that all right? >> all right. >> in ohio, around the country, we're looking at the wall street journal reporting $150 million raised last month for the obama campaign. we'll told by the romney campaign theirs is going to be impressive, but we don't have any numbers. do you have a sense that the romney campaign is...
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the rule of law is being established as a foundation piece of the electoral process once again. >> that is important. >> eliot: back to my question. second term you have been critical of president obama on issues of civil liberties foreign policies, where do you see him going? >> on that front we have an editorial in our last issue. i would call it the election editorial but we do say reelect president obama. because the stakes are too high. but the forward movement, we saw gay rights. we need to stand up and say we're not secure with the escalation of drone wars or violation of civil liberties. there has to be a movement from people. i'm worried about austerity issues that you raised. you can look at europe, but if you see balancing the budget which i believe is not the short term objective. it shouldic to end joblessness in this country. you will see the balancing of the budget on the backs of working class people, the poor, who have had to bear the suffering of wall street and have not shared in a recovery which is slim but beginning. >> eliot: what you're saying is hugely important.
the rule of law is being established as a foundation piece of the electoral process once again. >> that is important. >> eliot: back to my question. second term you have been critical of president obama on issues of civil liberties foreign policies, where do you see him going? >> on that front we have an editorial in our last issue. i would call it the election editorial but we do say reelect president obama. because the stakes are too high. but the forward movement, we saw...
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law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of yesterday afternoon on the phone line that the state was telling people to call if they had any questions or if they were at all confused about voting this year. so say anybody who doesn't have a driver's license and was calling the state to find out if they can vote, as of yesterday, that recording on the state's phone line for voting help was telling them, no, you can't vote, when, in fact, legally you can. ultimately when we question the state elections office about that yesterday afternoon they took down that recording. they said it was just an oversi
law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of...
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it doesn't just depend on the law itself. it depends on what people think the law is in pennsylvania. people are calling the state calling that toll free number to find out about voting and being told when they call that number to effectively not show up if they don't have an i.d. then honestly it doesn't matter what the judge ruled. people without i.d. will probably stay home. pennsylvania elections officials said this week they are pulling their multimillion dollar ad campaign targeted at educating voters about the photo i.d. requirements because of course there is no longer an i.d. requirement. but you know what? even before you get to taking down your ad campaign as you meander around with that task pennsylvania you might also want to consider this. the bureau of elections for cumberland county in pennsylvania as of today hopefully informing its visitors that, quote, all voters will be required to show photo i.d. at the polling place in the november, 2012, general election. actually voters will not be required to show pho
it doesn't just depend on the law itself. it depends on what people think the law is in pennsylvania. people are calling the state calling that toll free number to find out about voting and being told when they call that number to effectively not show up if they don't have an i.d. then honestly it doesn't matter what the judge ruled. people without i.d. will probably stay home. pennsylvania elections officials said this week they are pulling their multimillion dollar ad campaign targeted at...
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the law school examiners, i don't think bls cooked numbers. i think people lied about getting jobs. that would have the same effect. there is no evidence of that. the bls is constantly trying to get it right. sometimes it helps the incumbent president, sometimes not. here's what eric erickson tweeted. quote, i don't think it's healthy to indicate that the jobs numbers are cooked. a best-selling author and currently writes a blog with his wife susie. so do you really believe that people in the obama campaign, the chicago guy that you tweeted about, that they cooked the numbers? >> anderson, last night before these numbers came out, i tweeted, i wonder what the assumptions will be tomorrow. because last month, the assumptions were that participation rate dropped to the lowest level since jimmy connor. that means people quit looking for work so they don't count. there are so many assumptions that one makes coming into these numbers. you pointed out very accurately that they polled 60,000 people out of a work force of 100 million plus to see how many people had work coming in and out. b
the law school examiners, i don't think bls cooked numbers. i think people lied about getting jobs. that would have the same effect. there is no evidence of that. the bls is constantly trying to get it right. sometimes it helps the incumbent president, sometimes not. here's what eric erickson tweeted. quote, i don't think it's healthy to indicate that the jobs numbers are cooked. a best-selling author and currently writes a blog with his wife susie. so do you really believe that people in the...
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laws. there is a link there with the super pacs because you see people like me koch brothers who find these super pacs and other entities were tried to get these laws passed appeare. is this an attempted dotard disenfranchisement? is that in explicit strategy? how do you justify it? >> i don't know anybody would have said that that it is a strategy for motor disenfranchisement. >> i said that. they have said that they don't want certain people to vote. >> ok. here's what happens. i have seen firsthand voter fraud. it is probably not as rampant as a lot of people would have you believe. just like the threat on republican dissent french minds -- republican disenfranchisement of people is also not as much as you would believe. i have watched people cast illegal votes and physically tried to stop it. that does not mean that every democrat is a crook or that every one that has one did so by cheating. if you pretend it is not happening, your only kidding yourself. you have a push on the other sid
laws. there is a link there with the super pacs because you see people like me koch brothers who find these super pacs and other entities were tried to get these laws passed appeare. is this an attempted dotard disenfranchisement? is that in explicit strategy? how do you justify it? >> i don't know anybody would have said that that it is a strategy for motor disenfranchisement. >> i said that. they have said that they don't want certain people to vote. >> ok. here's what...
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law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it's probably best to see the swing state polls that come out monday, tuesday, wednesday. at that point we'll have a good idea after people have digested the debate as well as these job number, but alex, i think you pointed to it very well. the obama campaign got a very big gift from the job number, just to be able to turn the subject from wednesday night's tough debate into something that was seen as a positive, that the unemployment rate went below 8% and just change the story. allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remain
law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still...
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he was breaking the law. let's finish the equation. therefore he deserved to die? what is your point? what is the point you're making. even when you have the correct guy, if we cuff somebody, if he dies, it doesn't matter. >> cenk: to me the devaluing of human life as you watch them being totally indifferent for eight minutes as a guy is dying it turns your stomach. the thing that makes me angry is the flippant attitudes of the police chief. >> the idea that they're saying that it's a homicide and then parsing the words of what homicide could or may or may not mean. there is something called neglect homicide and this was negligence, and it was homicide. i think that any time you see this, everybody has got to be taken seriously. what were they afraid of, the guy was in handcuffs. if he was joking about not being able to breathe call that bluff. >> if might be fooled, it's not the and of your life. >> cenk: look-- >> it's almost as if getting caught on the dash cam falling for it is worse than getting caught on the dash cam responding to this. >> cenk: we told you e
he was breaking the law. let's finish the equation. therefore he deserved to die? what is your point? what is the point you're making. even when you have the correct guy, if we cuff somebody, if he dies, it doesn't matter. >> cenk: to me the devaluing of human life as you watch them being totally indifferent for eight minutes as a guy is dying it turns your stomach. the thing that makes me angry is the flippant attitudes of the police chief. >> the idea that they're saying that it's...
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state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it. color lock technology. exclusively from your benjamin moore retailer. find your perfect color with a buy one, get one pint offer. visit benjaminmoore.
state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank...
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ironically, the health care reform law mitt romney signed as governor and remains in effect today in massachusetts does mandate coverage for anyone with pre-existing conditions, whether they already have health insurance or not. a bit later in the program, we will talk about one of the few moments that mr. romney failed to strike a tone of moderation. it concerns a great big yellow bird. that makes it on our "ridiculist" tonight. a good friend of his, oscar the grouch, i can tell you it's really got my attention. first, ari fleischer with the serious stuff. he serves as part-time unpaid communications consultant to the romney campaign and political analyst, roland martin. ari, what do you make -- do you say that mitt romney is seeming to be striking some more centrist positions, or at least sounding more centrist? >> well, let me try to peel this onion one slice at a time. the 47% comment really breaks down to two. one is that the pejorative way he spoke about the 47%, which as i, you didn't show my clip, when you ked me about that the day afterwards, i said it was wrong, they're not
ironically, the health care reform law mitt romney signed as governor and remains in effect today in massachusetts does mandate coverage for anyone with pre-existing conditions, whether they already have health insurance or not. a bit later in the program, we will talk about one of the few moments that mr. romney failed to strike a tone of moderation. it concerns a great big yellow bird. that makes it on our "ridiculist" tonight. a good friend of his, oscar the grouch, i can tell you...
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on the bar of new and which has law enforcement officers who are in fact cops officials but dress up like police i've been promised that my question is going to look into it because it's it's actually i think a criminal activity to pretend to be a police officer when you're not and i'm very concerned about how about that trend is going i think in the past it would be assumes that people knew the law that it was reasonable and so long as you weren't creating a problem then you could do what you like but increasingly it seems that that is no longer the case these findings may be surprising for sun but the truth is these types of laws in offenses have been creeping up on us the some time now and they're actually growing in number so also the moment you can enjoy the parks in london but every day do not feed in tariff. and also take on this hour here on r.t.e. pre-election excitement. so tired of all of it you know i mean it's almost like it's more than twenty four hours of coverage. everything on the eve of the u.s. presidential elections we ask the people in america how they feel about
on the bar of new and which has law enforcement officers who are in fact cops officials but dress up like police i've been promised that my question is going to look into it because it's it's actually i think a criminal activity to pretend to be a police officer when you're not and i'm very concerned about how about that trend is going i think in the past it would be assumes that people knew the law that it was reasonable and so long as you weren't creating a problem then you could do what you...
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i asked jonathan gruber the mit who helped design the law. he told me 100%. that was my whole job, saying whether we could fit what he wanted to do within those three funding sources. the legislature ended up adding more money to the law after he proposed it. but the fact remains it remains on federal dollars and on state taxes. but romney's health care proposal doesn't make it easier for other states to do what he did. it makes it almost impossible. he's not offering states access to federal funds for universal coverage. here's what he's doing. >> i would like to take the medicaid dallas dollars and go to state and say you'll get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1% and you manage your care for your poor in the way you think best. >> that sounds nice. it's a cut to medicaid of more than $600 billion. that means medicaid will not be able to offer other states the generous deal massachusetts got. so then let's go through these three pots of money. romney isn't giving states a pot of money, he's cutting medicaid funding so unlike massachusetts, state
i asked jonathan gruber the mit who helped design the law. he told me 100%. that was my whole job, saying whether we could fit what he wanted to do within those three funding sources. the legislature ended up adding more money to the law after he proposed it. but the fact remains it remains on federal dollars and on state taxes. but romney's health care proposal doesn't make it easier for other states to do what he did. it makes it almost impossible. he's not offering states access to federal...
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. >> sean: now we are getting lectured, trip transpire, that we need blasphemy laws in merge, part of them come from this president of egypt, whom we are giving how many millions of dollars -- billions, excuse me? >> sean, look. it's clear that there wasn't enough protection of the ambassador. there were four people died because there wasn't enough security. -- >>> wait a minute. but the president keeps saying, this was spontaneous -- >> it doesn't matter-- >>> why are they lying? >> you guy it's [overlapping dialogue] >> it doesn't matter if it was spontaneous or if it was-- >>> it does if the president tells us something that is factually inaccurate! >> it doesn't, sean. the fact is, security wasn't there. there wasn't enough security. why wasn't it there? that's what-- >>> it is okay that the president lies?! he went out there -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: just answer the question [overlapping dialogue] >> when is the president going to own up on this? when is the president going to own up to this and say what you are saying -- [overlapping dialogue] >> when the investigation
. >> sean: now we are getting lectured, trip transpire, that we need blasphemy laws in merge, part of them come from this president of egypt, whom we are giving how many millions of dollars -- billions, excuse me? >> sean, look. it's clear that there wasn't enough protection of the ambassador. there were four people died because there wasn't enough security. -- >>> wait a minute. but the president keeps saying, this was spontaneous -- >> it doesn't matter--...
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ironically, the health care law that mitt romney signed in massachusetts and remains in place, it does allow for preexisting conditions whether they have health insurance or not. we will be watching big bird and his good friend oscar the grouch. it certainly got my attention. but first we have political analyst roland martin. do you think mitt romney is taking more centrist positions? >> the 47% comment really breaks down into two. the pejorative way he talked about the 47%, you didn't show my clip. when you asked me about that the day afterwards, i said he was wrong, they aren't victims and he shouldn't use that word. the economic part of it is factually right. we are a country where 47% should be excused for paying any income taxes. >> but he said that's totally wrong. >> let me get to that. the top 47% make more than $250,000 a year and pay more income taxes. he was wrong by saying 47%. he was right in saying 47% don't pay income taxes. you talk about lifting those people up so they can make it in america. that's what they want. they want to become taxpayers, and that's where he was
ironically, the health care law that mitt romney signed in massachusetts and remains in place, it does allow for preexisting conditions whether they have health insurance or not. we will be watching big bird and his good friend oscar the grouch. it certainly got my attention. but first we have political analyst roland martin. do you think mitt romney is taking more centrist positions? >> the 47% comment really breaks down into two. the pejorative way he talked about the 47%, you didn't...
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laws in wisconsin, south carolina and texas and they have done it again. >> if you are pennsylvania voter you will not have to show a photo i.d. this election. a judge ruled against the measure for now saying he didn't believe there was adequate time for voters to easily get a photo i.d. before november 6th. >> stephen: that is ridiculous. they will have their i.d.s by november 6th if they go to the dmv now. but folks, as bad as this is-- (cheers and applause) as bad as this is, there is a silver lining to this story. because according to the ruling, election officials can still ask for photo i.d.s, they just can't prevent people from voting if they don't have it. this could still work. asking for the i.d. is now meaningless but we're still allowed the consolation prize of harassing voters for no reason. and if we just add some other intimidation tactics i think we can make the wrong kind of voters so uncomfortable, they'll just turn around and go home. i say we start with a cavity search. you're free to vote but first you have to let us pull back your curtain and take a few yanks on that
laws in wisconsin, south carolina and texas and they have done it again. >> if you are pennsylvania voter you will not have to show a photo i.d. this election. a judge ruled against the measure for now saying he didn't believe there was adequate time for voters to easily get a photo i.d. before november 6th. >> stephen: that is ridiculous. they will have their i.d.s by november 6th if they go to the dmv now. but folks, as bad as this is-- (cheers and applause) as bad as this is,...
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we have breaking news, two law enforcement officials tell cnn the death of a border patrol agent this week was caused by friendly fire. the fbi said in a statement, there are strong preliminary indications that the death of nicholas ivy was the result of -- the injured agent was released from the hospital on wednesday. >>> a radical islamist clerk is on the way to the united states after losing his latest and final appeal to avoid that fate. judge john thomas said the extradition may proceed immediately. some of the supporters clashed with police outside of the high court. he faces 11 charges in the united states, including conspireing in 1999 to set up an islam jihad training camp in oregon. rebel fighters shot down a helicopter over the the damascus country side. this video supposedly shows. the video was posted on youtube. we cannot verify it's authenticity. another opposition group known as the local coordination committees for syria says 110 were killed by syrian forces across the country just today. former university of tennessee basketball coach pat summitt says she was not for
we have breaking news, two law enforcement officials tell cnn the death of a border patrol agent this week was caused by friendly fire. the fbi said in a statement, there are strong preliminary indications that the death of nicholas ivy was the result of -- the injured agent was released from the hospital on wednesday. >>> a radical islamist clerk is on the way to the united states after losing his latest and final appeal to avoid that fate. judge john thomas said the extradition may...
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there are different laws and they are divided up into strict laws and non-strict laws. with strict laws, you have to have either a photo i.d. or in non-frodo id in order to cast a ballot. -- or a non-photo id in order to cast a ballot. or you have to produce it within the next few days after voting. with non-trip, you do not have this kind of strict requirements. a poll worker that knows you can guard for you. there are different criteria in place in order to be able to vote if you do not have the idps -- the id. basically, the argument is that it prevents a voter fraud and voter identity theft. host: from the "washington post" with strict letter of the laws, kan., a florida and georgia. ... kansas, tennessee and georgia. most states are covered by non- photo id and most aren't requiring identification laws. guest: before the 2008 election, the laws were not as stringent than they were not as numerous. after the 2008 election, there seemed to be a wave of republican-controlled state legislatures pushing forth some of these laws. it seems to have evolved, in fact, into a
there are different laws and they are divided up into strict laws and non-strict laws. with strict laws, you have to have either a photo i.d. or in non-frodo id in order to cast a ballot. -- or a non-photo id in order to cast a ballot. or you have to produce it within the next few days after voting. with non-trip, you do not have this kind of strict requirements. a poll worker that knows you can guard for you. there are different criteria in place in order to be able to vote if you do not have...
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these are brand new laws, right? >> yes. >> and what you're actually common straig demonstrating is, it continues and where we're really seeing it is outside of the voter in organizations, political parties, and candidates even who actually are doing much more fraudulent activity, i would argue. is that your sense? >> yes, that is my sense. but i want to go to -- to your point. the secretary of state of ohio talks about how -- over the past three or four presidential elections, you are talking about 12, 14, 16 years. that there has only been a handful of fraudulent type of voting that true the vote claims they are trying to address. so it appears that to me, that we have these folks have a remedy, melissa, in search of a problem. >> right. >> the problem is not there. and i think it's so unfair. again, i emphasize, we have got to guard this right to vote. >> yeah. >> it is so important. and if they get away with this -- if you look at what just happened, the decision that you talked about in ohio and in pennsylvania,
these are brand new laws, right? >> yes. >> and what you're actually common straig demonstrating is, it continues and where we're really seeing it is outside of the voter in organizations, political parties, and candidates even who actually are doing much more fraudulent activity, i would argue. is that your sense? >> yes, that is my sense. but i want to go to -- to your point. the secretary of state of ohio talks about how -- over the past three or four presidential...
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the laws say they cannot contribute. you cannot spend money. he cannot make an independent expenditure. that is all research to individuals. where are corporations in the middle of all this? they're not individuals. they presumably are not foreigners, although they may be owned by foreign corporations. that line of conversation assumes that the government should have a role in inviting who is in the circle. whether it is has the right to speak or the right to vote. it is to gets to determine who are leaders are. that is what the conversation becomes. >> i wonder if you can talk a little more about, earlier you described this problem for the campaigns of the fragmented narrative. you have many voices and they are independently funded. i thought it sounded kind of great that there are these two models. this is the only store the public needs to hear because of the way the money is flowing. it is very specific to how the dollars are moving around. in the other scenario we have a bunch of people hollering. you could say the money makes the voices l
the laws say they cannot contribute. you cannot spend money. he cannot make an independent expenditure. that is all research to individuals. where are corporations in the middle of all this? they're not individuals. they presumably are not foreigners, although they may be owned by foreign corporations. that line of conversation assumes that the government should have a role in inviting who is in the circle. whether it is has the right to speak or the right to vote. it is to gets to determine...
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law. he made it clear he was only doing it in the context of this election because he didn't think the state could be ready. so this is an issue that naacp and aclu have been trying to use. >> last month, vladimir putin endorsed president obama's reelection campaign. i'm sure the campaign was thrilled by it. he got another interesting endorsement from hugo chavez. he said if i were american i would vote for obama. and if he was in venezuela election, he would vote for chavez. >> this is north dakota for reminding us you can have fabulous economic success if government gets out of the way. they had a mindboggling piece, the heart of north dakota oil fracking boom has doubled the average income over the last five years making it the top hundred richest counties in the countries. they quoted an excerpt saying that right now, north dakota is using 2,000 new millionaires a year. >> paul: this is the hit to the country not to the state of georgia but they held elections. for the first time is go
law. he made it clear he was only doing it in the context of this election because he didn't think the state could be ready. so this is an issue that naacp and aclu have been trying to use. >> last month, vladimir putin endorsed president obama's reelection campaign. i'm sure the campaign was thrilled by it. he got another interesting endorsement from hugo chavez. he said if i were american i would vote for obama. and if he was in venezuela election, he would vote for chavez. >>...
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we can have laws which protect our borders but also with respect immigrants. if you are talking deportation and amnesty, those are polarizing discussions but when we look at taking the issue of immigration and we talk about illegal immigration and having some kind of compromise between having people live here but having some cost to staying here, that is something that has a consensus among americans and certainly characterizing immigrants. this is not to say the arguments can be exploited in different ways, but people understanding, their experience, with people who came to this country recently is also a positive one. this brings us back, when quoting be a pea. what we are looking at when we are looking at our data nationally is there are a wealth of priorities that people don't feel like being addressed in the campaigns themselves. you can see the economy at the top. it is jobs, the federal debt and cutting government spending. people feel there's a good amount of waste and they think of having a smaller government to avoid that kind of waste. there are con
we can have laws which protect our borders but also with respect immigrants. if you are talking deportation and amnesty, those are polarizing discussions but when we look at taking the issue of immigration and we talk about illegal immigration and having some kind of compromise between having people live here but having some cost to staying here, that is something that has a consensus among americans and certainly characterizing immigrants. this is not to say the arguments can be exploited in...